Gypsy Card Daily Draw

Kapherus wrote:
Profit-------Widow-----Pride

My immediate impression is that I'll profit from separating myself from pride. I've got my Mars in Leo, and I can be quite prideful, so this is sound advice. Widow could also be an older woman, so an alternative interpretation would be that I'll benefit from an older woman who is arrogant, but the first interpretation feels more authentic to me.

I was intrigued by this draw, and the more I thought about it, the more I thought I should have drawn one or two additional cards for more information. So, I decided to draw another three cards-- not so much to test the oracle, but to see if I could get clarification on the original spread. Here is what came up...

Treason-------Fortune--------Pride

A-hah! Never mind clarification! How's that for a confirmation! These cards clearly show that I'll betray my good fortune by being prideful. That hit me right between the eyes! These cards don't fool around when they have a message to impart!

I CANNOT believe that I drew PRIDE again today! It's probably because nothing happened yesterday relating to yesterday's daily draws, and so the energy must still be around me. Here's what I got today...

Pride--------Prison---------Young Man



Prison can refer to the loss of a friend, so if I'm not careful my pride will alienate a male friend. Well, that's not very cheery news. But I think I know what this is about now. There was an incident with my kid brother about a month ago, and we've not really talked since. I think the cards have been telling me that I need to swallow my pride and give him a call. If that's the message, Pride should stop showing up in my daily draws.

These Gypsy Cards, or at least the Art Deco, seem to deal more with psychological matters than with prediction for me-- at least that's how the daily card draws seem to be working. I really haven't tried many formal readings with this deck. It's a very different perspective from the playing cards and Lenormand.

Kaph

Hi Kaph

It makes sense the story with your brother. Have you made the call? If not, pride will be showing up. Indeed I saw that the GC are more aligned with my idea of Tarot than LN. Maybe that's the reason I could "read" them quicker than LN that still makes me feel confused and not sure.

Stanze

Stanze wrote:Hi Kaph

It makes sense the story with your brother. Have you made the call? If not, pride will be showing up. Indeed I saw that the GC are more aligned with my idea of Tarot than LN. Maybe that's the reason I could "read" them quicker than LN that still makes me feel confused and not sure.

Stanze

Hi Stanze,

Yep, I left a message on his cell to call me.

Interesting that you've noticed the same thing with the Gypsy cards relating more to psychological matters. I suspect that they can be predictive in the ways that Tarot is predictive, but not at all what I expected.

Kaph

I'm late to add to this one; but "pride before a fall" comes to mind, for Pride and Prisoner.

Are these the cards you're using now, instead of the Piatnik deck?

rif wrote:I'm late to add to this one; but "pride before a fall" comes to mind, for Pride and Prisoner.

Are these the cards you're using now, instead of the Piatnik deck?

Yeah, pride before the fall certainly applies. A humble spirit is what's needed. I figured with the holidays coming, it's silly to hold a grudge because my pride was injured, and make the festivities uncomfortable for everyone.

The Art Deco includes all 36 symbols from the Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards with an additional 16 cards:

Party, Profit, Young man, Foreign Woman, Inconstance, Maid, Pride, Servants, Good News, Treason, Lord, Prison, Misunderstanding, Physician, Old Man, and Rival.

I like the idea of having a full deck of 52 cards-- if for no other reason than it's what I'm used to using with the playing cards.

Kaph

Kapherus wrote:

Interesting that you've noticed the same thing with the Gypsy cards relating more to psychological matters. I suspect that they can be predictive in the ways that Tarot is predictive, but not at all what I expected.

Kaph

Hi Kaph,

Strange you should say that. I find the Gypsies very down to earth and predictive. They can have a more psychological meaning if I look for that, but otherwise they tend to speak more of actual happenings.

Kat

Kat wrote:

Kapherus wrote:

Interesting that you've noticed the same thing with the Gypsy cards relating more to psychological matters. I suspect that they can be predictive in the ways that Tarot is predictive, but not at all what I expected.

Kaph

Hi Kaph,

Strange you should say that. I find the Gypsies very down to earth and predictive. They can have a more psychological meaning if I look for that, but otherwise they tend to speak more of actual happenings.

Kat

Thanks, Kat! Perhaps I need to set my intention that my daily draws will be mundane and predictive, rather than so psychological.

Kaph

This morning I decided to go back to the Gypsy Fortune Telling cards, and wouldn't you know that I'd pull Ecclesiastic again!! I bet if I'd stuck with the Art Deco, I would have drawn Pride!

Okay, I set my intention while shuffling the cards that today's draw will provide a predictive message, rather than psychological insight, pertaining to my day.

Here's what I got for today...

Ecclesiastic-------Judge-------Thief



Traditionally Ecclesiastic + Judge can refer to a physician. How interesting that we have an appointment with the doctor this morning-- the kiddies have lingering coughs, and we just want to make sure it's nothing to worry about.

Hey, that's wonderfully predictive!

I'm not sure how to fit Thief into this spread. Thief refers to theft, loss, or betrayal. Perhaps something will be lost or stolen during the trip to and from the doctor's office, or maybe we'll be overcharged for the visit.

Kapherus wrote:Okay, I set my intention while shuffling the cards that today's draw will provide a predictive message, rather than psychological insight, pertaining to my day.

Interesting angle. I find it hard to put concrete to these concepts, as represented in these cards.

Ecclesiastic-------Judge-------Thief

Traditionally Ecclesiastic + Judge can refer to a physician.

I was under the impression that these cards are meant to be read in any way that they are meaningful to the person using them. It even says so in the LWB. But seriously, how are you finding traditional meanings and combinations?

let's hope it's all good for you and the kids! But Thief puts me in mind of the Lenormand Mice.

The best I can come up with is that you're attention will be focused in the wrong direction, and you'll miss something important as a result; and perhaps suffer a loss of some sort as a process. Be careful that you don't get overcharged for any purchases today, by paying attention!

Of course if you are mindful today and avoid the Thief, then it invalidates the prediction and you may never know if the cards were accurate. What a conundrum!

Bah, it's too early for that, where is my coffee?!

rif wrote:
I was under the impression that these cards are meant to be read in any way that they are meaningful to the person using them. It even says so in the LWB. But seriously, how are you finding traditional meanings and combinations?

Hi rif,

I don't place much stock in LWBs generally, and the LWB with this deck is practically useless!.

As for traditional meanings, I was pretty blown away by a physician appearing in this morning's cards!

rif wrote:let's hope it's all good for you and the kids! But Thief puts me in mind of the Lenormand Mice.

Thank you! Yes, Thief gives me that same sense of loss, but I don't get the 'gnawing' or 'sickness' feeling that I get with Lenormand Mice. I considered that Thief could mean that the kiddies have an infection, but that didn't seem to resonate.

rif wrote:The best I can come up with is that you're attention will be focused in the wrong direction, and you'll miss something important as a result; and perhaps suffer a loss of some sort as a process. Be careful that you don't get overcharged for any purchases today, by paying attention!

Yeah, I was thinking the same-- although the visit will be covered by insurance, an overcharge could cause lots of aggravation later if the charges are rejected by the insurance company.

rif wrote:Of course if you are mindful today and avoid the Thief, then it invalidates the prediction and you may never know if the cards were accurate. What a conundrum!

I'd be okay with not being able to validate the Thief-- it would be the icing on the cake. The physician combo was enough of a validation to bolster my faith in these cards.

Okay, I'm off to the doctors. Thank you for the insights-- I will most definitely pay attention to avoid being overcharged for any purchases today!

Kaph

Kapherus wrote:I don't place much stock in LWBs generally, and the LWB with this deck is practically useless!.

Yes, it offers little help.

As for traditional meanings, I was pretty blown away by a physician appearing in this morning's cards!

Sorry, I meant how do you know what a traditional combination is? I've not seen much about these cards, let alone their traditional ways of being read. I thought maybe you found a resource I'm not familiar with.

Good luck today!

Kapherus wrote:This morning I decided to go back to the Gypsy Fortune Telling cards, and wouldn't you know that I'd pull Ecclesiastic again!! I bet if I'd stuck with the Art Deco, I would have drawn Pride!

Okay, I set my intention while shuffling the cards that today's draw will provide a predictive message, rather than psychological insight, pertaining to my day.

Here's what I got for today...

Ecclesiastic-------Judge-------Thief



Traditionally Ecclesiastic + Judge can refer to a physician. How interesting that we have an appointment with the doctor this morning-- the kiddies have lingering coughs, and we just want to make sure it's nothing to worry about.

Hey, that's wonderfully predictive!

I'm not sure how to fit Thief into this spread. Thief refers to theft, loss, or betrayal. Perhaps something will be lost or stolen during the trip to and from the doctor's office, or maybe we'll be overcharged for the visit.

Hi Kaph,

Where did you get the Ecclesiastic + Judge = physician from? I'm just curious. I don't tend to read in combinations and I was doing Sammie's Over and Under spread the other day and Judge came up representing a doctor. First time since I've been reading them, that Judge has come up as doctor....actually, it's the first time doctor has come up at all!

Kat

Hi Kat & rif,

Since you both asked the same question, I'll answer you both in one post.

I think I got that particular combination from Esther Gombor, but I've also been cruising the Hungarian sites and forums where I've picked up a few additional combinations-- such as Message + Hope is 'a long distance phone call,' and Marriage + Thief is 'cheating.' Of course I don't read Hungarian, but Google does an adequate job of translating. I just search for: Cigánykártya and a bunch of different sites come up.

rif wrote:
Sorry, I meant how do you know what a traditional combination is? I've not seen much about these cards, let alone their traditional ways of being read. I thought maybe you found a resource I'm not familiar with.

Sorry I misunderstood your question! And thanks for the well wishes!

Kat wrote:
Where did you get the Ecclesiastic + Judge = physician from? I'm just curious. I don't tend to read in combinations and I was doing Sammie's Over and Under spread the other day and Judge came up representing a doctor. First time since I've been reading them, that Judge has come up as doctor....actually, it's the first time doctor has come up at all!

I've found so few combinations, and that one just stuck in my mind and immediately occurred to me when I drew today's cards.

Kaph

Kapherus wrote:
Ecclesiastic-------Judge-------Thief



Traditionally Ecclesiastic + Judge can refer to a physician. How interesting that we have an appointment with the doctor this morning-- the kiddies have lingering coughs, and we just want to make sure it's nothing to worry about.

Hey, that's wonderfully predictive!

I'm not sure how to fit Thief into this spread. Thief refers to theft, loss, or betrayal. Perhaps something will be lost or stolen during the trip to and from the doctor's office, or maybe we'll be overcharged for the visit.

I'm having a terrible time trying to post today. I don't know if the server upgrades are still happening, or if they've completely screwed up the software!

Anyway, I just wanted to make note that the babies are fine. They have head colds, and the coughing is caused by post nasal drip. I guess we're a little swine-flu-phobic!

AND...

I wanted to validate Thief! We were late for the doctor's appointment because I spent almost 20 minutes looking for my car keys. It seems one of our little thieves snatched them, because I finally located them in the babies' playroom-- both children have a weird key fetish!

So, this was the MOST meaningful daily draw I think I have ever had-- across board of all the oracle decks I've played with.

Kaph

Wow, Kaph. Good to know that your kids are OK and good also to know that the cards are working so nicely!!!!

Stanze