Hungarian Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards (Zigeuner Wahrsagekarten)

spiritsong wrote:Lay off Sylvie already Fenn!

We get it, you don't think much of her...

but some of us do appreciate what she's written and shared, and some of us have taken the time to get to know her and like her!

I like you too- but I get tired of all the criticism & digs-

can we stick to sharing about cards, rather than talking about criticisms of personalities??

This wonderful forum doesn't need it!

Spiritsong

I think this is an important issue that should be addressed...

I try to avoid censorship as much as possible on the forum because I want people to feel free to express their feelings about cards--books--authors--- methods--techniques--whatever, without worrying that their posts will mysteriously disappear. On the other hand, I also want everyone to feel safe and comfortable here, so it can be a very thin line to walk at times.

My personal feeling is that when you put yourself out there and publish your ideas, you're opening yourself up to criticism. Some people will love you, others-- not so much. You have to develop a thick skin when you deal with the public-- look at poor Sarah Palin as a perfect example of how difficult it can be when you step into the limelight.

Having said that, I do understand why Spiritsong found that last remark slightly offensive. My initial reaction to the comment was that Fennario was joking-- I can't help but notice Fennario's witty sense of humor. Of course if Sylvie were a personal friend, I might have taken the remark very differently. So I am glad that Spiritsong felt comfortable enough to voice her feelings.

Some of us did a bang up job tearing apart Doreen Virtue in a recent thread, and looking back I can see how someone who knows and respects Doreen could be offended by that thread as well.

I think if we keep our criticisms aimed at the works, methods, techniques, books, etc. that we discuss, we can avoid accidentally (or intentionally) stepping on someone's toes.

Thanks for your understanding!
Kaph

fennario wrote: Kaph, the added cards are Love, Loss, Visit, and Some Money, a poverty card showing an emptied purse and a little money on a table.

Thanks, Fennario!

I wanted to see if those 4 cards were included in the Art Deco Fortune Telling Deck, and they are indeed. I don't own either the Gypsy Fortune Cards or the Biedermeier, so I don't know what the 16 extra cards are in this deck.

Kaph

Thanks again, Fennario!

I might just forget about the Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards and focus more on the Art Deco Cards.

I managed to find the 16 additional cards included in the Art Deco Fortune Telling deck:

Pride
Maid
Lord
Party
Old Man
Inconstance
Young Man
Misunderstanding
Treason
Prison
Good News
Profit
Servants
Physician
Foreign Woman
Rival

fennario wrote:Are they all in the Art Deco?

Yep, they're all there in the Art Deco + the 4 additional from the Zigeuner + the 16 additional listed above.

The only slight difference is that in the Art Deco, 'Desire' is 'Ardent Desire.'

I think it's interesting that the Art Deco seems to be an attempt to complete the Biedermeier into a 52 card deck.

wildcat wrote:Hi everybody!

can you be so kind to tell me what card or combination could represent an enemy ( woman) in the Zigeuner or Biedermaier? Or another man, let's suppose a woman has got 2 love interests, beside the Lover? That's why I prefer a deck with more people cards..I have got problems wirh persons not with situations!

Interesting question. I couldn't say for sure, but I've noticed that Esther Gombor uses other cards from the Zigeuner to represent people. For example, 'Desire' can also represent a woman. Officer can represent a flirt who is not interested in a commitment, etc.