Timing For the Full Board Layout

[Kapherus]

I was thinking about the idea of past and future (left and right cards). Will this apply like it in a 36-spread? I mean, there's the interpretation of the Cross from Lot where it really reads as past behind, present the vertical line from the reader's figure and future ahead.

But if you get just the whole spread without looking at the Lot idea will you also consider past/future in this spread? I think that the examples Treppner gives doesn't emphasize this aspect.

Stanze

Hi Stanze,

I came across some delineations for applying a specific time frame to the Full Board (36 Card) Spread that I thought you might find interesting. Here's a diagram I put together...



I culled this system from several sources, and I've seen these delineations used for both this 8X4+4 format, and the 9X4 format. It provides a definite structure to the full board that makes it seem less intimidating (at least to a complete beginner such as myself).

I've not tried this yet-- since I've not decided yet if I want to use a structured time frame for the full board or not, but I thought it answered your question.

Kaph

[Stanze]

Hi Kaph

This seems quite interesting. I think I'll take a look at some 36 spread I've done to see if something fits here. Also, we do have a 6 month future overview from the horizontal line (right) and the bottom column (down) from the personal card. Hmmm... it means then that - in this case - we analyse combinations in the directions showed by the arrows, ignoring the cards that are not included in these arrows.

Also, this opens a question - and I have read it somewhere - that if the querent's card comes at the end of a row you have to make another spread because then it shows no future ...

Thanks a lot for shareing this. I'll keep you updated from what I've discovered from past spreads...

Stanze

[Kapherus]

Hi Kaph

Also, this opens a question - and I have read it somewhere - that if the querent's card comes at the end of a row you have to make another spread because then it shows no future ...

Hi Stanze,

I hadn't heard that. I remember reading somewhere that if the person card falls at the end of a row, it means that the querent is focused on the past, living in the past, etc.

In this particular delineation, the near future (next 6 months) is also read in the vertical line below the person card, so even if the person card falls at the end of the row, there would still be a future to read. so, perhaps what you read pertains to a different system?

Kaph

[Stanze]

I hadn't heard that. I remember reading somewhere that if the person card falls at the end of a row, it means that the querent is focused on the past, living in the past, etc.

In this particular delineation, the near future (next 6 months) is also read in the vertical line below the person card, so even if the person card falls at the end of the row, there would still be a future to read. so, perhaps what you read pertains to a different system?

It makes sense and now that you have mentioned, yes, there is still the vertical line below as a future. What I've read it's not connected to this system. It has more to do with the cross reading where the vertical line represents the present. In this case there's no future reading for that person.

I'm not sure how to accept the fact that the person lives in the past. Eventhough this would be the case there's always a future to be unveiled. In your example, for instance there's a future in the below line...

Stanze

[Contessa]

Part of the reason I don't like to read the full board this way is because the person card can fall somewhere that doesn't give much info for the "future". This is how I origianlly learned to read a full board though. I believe that Piatnik's booklet for either the Lenormand or the Zigeuner details reading the full board in this manner as well.

I haven't done a FB but once in the past six months because I find it so exhausting to read. There are so many combinations that can come out of any sequence of cards.

I like Treppner's story telling method of reading the board, it was the easiest way for me to approach it. I also like the knighting approach. If I'm looking for specific time frames (that don't come from the cards themselves) I ask my guide/deck to show me the next six months while shuffling for a question.

I admire both of you for attempting it the FB! I have the most awful time with it, so I have suspended my attempts for now.

I would love to hear more on how you do, I really wish I was better at it myself!

[Kapherus]

Hmmm... it means then that - in this case - we analyse combinations in the directions showed by the arrows, ignoring the cards that are not included in these arrows.

Hi Stanze,

I think if the querent had a specific questions-- about 'love' let's say, then the Heart would be located, and the cards would be read the same way...

Relationship history would be to the left, present conditions above, future outlook down and to the right, etc. So the cards outside of the arrows radiating from the person card may still apply to specific areas of the querent's life.

I don't know that this system would necessary exclude the other techniques such as reading the Houses, and reflecting, etc. I guess it would require some trial and error to see what works.

I'm not necessarily sold on this idea. It's just an option I discovered that I wanted to share.

Kaph

[Kapherus]

I like Treppner's story telling method of reading the board, it was the easiest way for me to approach it. I also like the knighting approach. If I'm looking for specific time frames (that don't come from the cards themselves) I ask my guide/deck to show me the next six months while shuffling for a question.

Hi Contessa,

I like the Treppner methods too, and I wonder if the two systems are mutually exclusive? For example, I was thinking that any of the lines in the timing method could also be read using the reflecting technique-- like Chanah's Line of 9. For additional information, I think the Houses could be utilized as well.

This is all just speculation on my part. In truth, I've never even attempted a full board layout, so I have no clear idea about what would work and what wouldn't.

I suppose it's time to dive in and play, and see what works for me and what doesn't.

Kaph

[Contessa]

I suppose it's time to dive in and play, and see what works for me and what doesn't.

Kaph

In my humble opinion, this is all that matters. You can make a spread whatever you want it to be. It's all about what works well for you. I don't see any reason why you couldn't read the lines in addition to reading it story style or in conjuntion with any other method.

There are so many layers you can explore with the full board - that's one of the reasons it is so difficult for me to do. It's like information overload, lol...

[Stanze]

There are so many layers you can explore with the full board - that's one of the reasons it is so difficult for me to do. It's like information overload, lol...

That's true, Contessa. It has too many information. I'll review some of my full board readings using this method Kaph explained here to see which adds or which confirms what I've seen/read.

One thing I know: I've done a full board to a friend of mine and somethings over there already happened. For another friend of mine it showed some background information and - funny - from her card to the left (the past, according to this method). This I'm saying from my head only I haven't check it from my notes.

Stanze

[Kapherus]

There are so many layers you can explore with the full board - that's one of the reasons it is so difficult for me to do. It's like information overload, lol...

That's true, Contessa. It has too many information. I'll review some of my full board readings using this method Kaph explained here to see which adds or which confirms what I've seen/read.

Yes, I agree. The idea of looking 36 cards in the face is overwhelming to me as well-- which is why I'm trying to find some structure in full board layout. I'm going to post a full board reading when I get a chance. Not for help or comments necessarily, but in order to track the accuracy of the predictions over 6 months time. If nothing else, I think it will be an interesting experiment.

One thing I know: I've done a full board to a friend of mine and somethings over there already happened. For another friend of mine it showed some background information and - funny - from her card to the left (the past, according to this method). This I'm saying from my head only I haven't check it from my notes.

Stanze, I didn't realize you had some experience with the full board. Did you read the lines following a specific time frame? I'm interested to hear if your previous readings followed the timing in the diagram above.

Kaph

[Chanah]

I've pretty much given up on doing full boards for clients - it takes so long. I know the cheats - like you can read only love or money in it - but the things do have so much information, it takes a couple of days to really work them out and that can be hard to resist.

I should probably go back to doing the cheats - but full boards are so fascinating it's really hard to gloss all that other information, so I generally use spreads that focus on a single question or two. For myself - I keep records when I do a full board, and even then they take a few days to work out I watch them play out over the course of years sometimes.

But they are great to do - I think we're all in too much of a rush these days - me too - for practical reasons. Still, throwing some full boards is a great exercise. I wish I could find a way to incorporate it into my practise, but I haven't as of yet.

This is the point to remember that Mlle Lenormand herself often used to tell clients to come back in a day or two for their actual reading - I do believe it actually took her that long to work it out - and even though we're using a different deck, it's still much the same that way.