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Re: The Silva Method

Post  rif on Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:39 pm

I bought a self hypnosis course by Igor Ledochowski, and although relatively pricey by my standards, I think it was worth it for me.

One of the examples he gave in the intro is related to programming yourself for success and I thought I'd share it here, for comparison purposes.

Suppose there is a hundred dollar bill on the ground. Or even a lowly twenty! Very Happy

Now suppose two people walk past it. The first person has a mindset that is negative, or focuses on why things never work for him, or similar. He would continue walking by, not seeing the bill, or not believing what he saw. Things like that just don't happen for him!

The other guy is open to possibilities and the idea of good fortune. He sees the bill and notices it, and picks it up. This is the individual who is programmer for success. It doesn't sound so mysterious when you think about it that way.

At any rate, take what you wish from that. Smile

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:15 pm

Chanah wrote:
Kaph I hadn't thought about it, but you may be right about the health problems. A lot of it is genetic, but I know that the mind plays some part - not the whole of it, but some. What irks me so much about the power of positive thinking is that we don't fully understand that part, but we pretend it's all mind and very simple. It's not. Humans are very complex creatures, and we don't half understand ourselves at that level yet.


I agree, Chanah, it isn't as simple as "Think and Grow Rich!" If it were, then everybody would be doing it. Even the Silva honchos admit up front that they can't explain why the techniques work.

I don't pretend to have any real answers. All I know for sure is that since starting the daily meditations to reach the alpha and theta levels of mind, I feel calmer and healthier, have more patience and energy, and I'm enjoying life more. If it's all in my head, who cares? The important thing is that the changes are real for me. Wink

Chanah wrote:Still - two months or less to Macbooks!


Yep! I say two months is a fair amount of time to program for something tangible-- otherwise the link between the treatment and the result becomes too clouded. If I just happen to end up with enough money in 5 years to buy a new computer, and I choose a Macbook, in my mind that would not mean my current programming was successful.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Stanze on Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:21 pm

Kapherus wrote:
I'm not interested in 'one day' though. I plan to give the techniques a fair trial. I think two months of dedicated programming should be enough time to manifest a new computer.

Kaph


Hi Kaph

I have a friend, he is a medium though he's a very simple person. He wouldn't understand half of this conversation and he's a great Christian believer, half educated, etc. He always told me that the time of God is different from our time. I'm a big fan of the Law of Attraction as I've seen it manifested in many ways in my life, for the good and also for not what I would like to have as well.
You will get your computer even in God's time... Very Happy

Chanah wrote:I'm with Kaph on this one. I'll give it a fair go for a couple of months and see what happens. I think the 'out' to the Secret might be that 'one day....'

Kaph I hadn't thought about it, but you may be right about the health problems. A lot of it is genetic, but I know that the mind plays some part - not the whole of it, but some. What irks me so much about the power of positive thinking is that we don't fully understand that part, but we pretend it's all mind and very simple. It's not. Humans are very complex creatures, and we don't half understand ourselves at that level yet.

Still - two months or less to Macbooks!


Hi Chanah

My father was a doctor, a very good one and he always told me the majority of his pacients had "mental" diseases. I'm saying here that their disease was not physical at all but result of their (un)conscious thoughts. He had an old lady who was sick only to have her sons around and another one that had terminal cancer that said she would only die after completing some things in her life. And that is exactly what happened.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:24 pm

rif wrote:I bought a self hypnosis course by Igor Ledochowski, and although relatively pricey by my standards, I think it was worth it for me.


Sounds interesting! I'll have to check it out! Wink

rif wrote:One of the examples he gave in the intro is related to programming yourself for success and I thought I'd share it here, for comparison purposes.

Suppose there is a hundred dollar bill on the ground. Or even a lowly twenty! Very Happy

Now suppose two people walk past it. The first person has a mindset that is negative, or focuses on why things never work for him, or similar. He would continue walking by, not seeing the bill, or not believing what he saw. Things like that just don't happen for him!

The other guy is open to possibilities and the idea of good fortune. He sees the bill and notices it, and picks it up. This is the individual who is programmer for success. It doesn't sound so mysterious when you think about it that way.

At any rate, take what you wish from that. Smile


Yep, I agree--, the story does make the process seem more logical and less like magic. We could also take it a step further to say that perhaps the positive fellow had a hunch to take that particular route that day.

My question to Mr. Ledochowski would be, "What about the poor slob who dropped the $100 bill in the street? Was that due to his or her own negative programming, simply an unlucky twist of fate, or was that act also affected by our positive fellow's programming?

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Stanze on Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:43 pm

Kapherus wrote:
My question to Mr. Ledochowski would be, "What about the poor slob who dropped the $100 bill in the street? Was that due to his or her own negative programming, simply an unlucky twist of fate, or was that act also affected by our positive fellow's programming?

Kaph


If we consider the positive thinking works I would say the person who lose the money was having a closed valve to it. If he had give away the money maybe it was a positive thinking in any way...

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:54 pm

Stanze wrote:
Kapherus wrote:
My question to Mr. Ledochowski would be, "What about the poor slob who dropped the $100 bill in the street? Was that due to his or her own negative programming, simply an unlucky twist of fate, or was that act also affected by our positive fellow's programming?

Kaph


If we consider the positive thinking works I would say the person who lose the money was having a closed valve to it. If he had give away the money maybe it was a positive thinking in any way...

Stanze


Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. The person who lost the money may have had a belief that money is hard to hang on to, and that it easily slips through ones fingers. So both the person who lost the money, and the person who found the money manifested their programming in a synchronistic manner.

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The Silva Life System Module 8 Habit Control

Post  Kapherus on Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:24 am

This morning I listened to Module 8 of the Silva Life System which is titled, "Habit Control." This module teaches techniques for eliminating bad habits (such as smoking, overeating, drug or alcohol dependency), dealing with both the physical and psychological components of the addiction, or for creating good habits (such as healthy eating, working out regularly, good study habits, etc.). The module includes detailed instructions for controlling weight and for quitting smoking using the Mirror of the Mind Technique, and a meditation exercise is included to impress the technique at the alpha level of mind.

I can see how this area of the Silva Method would be very popular. I would think that changing an internal behavior through hypnosis or alpha conditioning would be easier than influencing external life factors-- but perhaps that is just a self-limiting belief that I need to work on. Wink

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Guest on Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:26 am

Hi Kaph.

I'm very curious about the things you describe in Module 8. Do you have a bad habit you intend to test it on?

If I get the program and get that far, I think I have a list of 5 or 6! Lol.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:34 am

Analae wrote:Hi Kaph.

I'm very curious about the things you describe in Module 8. Do you have a bad habit you intend to test it on?

If I get the program and get that far, I think I have a list of 5 or 6! Lol.


Hi Analae,

I don't smoke or drink, but it wouldn't hurt for me to lose a few pounds of extra weight. Sadly, I don't have healthy eating habits, and I don't exercise regularly, and those are the two things I'd like to work on.

I was thinking about trying the weight control exercise to condition my mind to select healthy snack foods instead of always reaching for the chips and peanuts! Laughing

I'll let you know how it works for me!

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Stanze on Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:36 am

I've been listening to the first lesson of the free course and I liked it though I can't say that something has changed so far (I've listened only once). I'll give it more time.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Chanah on Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:40 am

I fell asleep before I could programme my Macbook last night. Bad me. But I've got a migraine, and I really really needed the rest - so that's okay, too.

Kaph, the whole 'healthy foods' thing is such a scam. It's not saturated fat that puts weight on people, it's starches and sugars (a/k/a carbohydrates). I've had diabetes since I was 19, and if I followed the even-now-current advice of diabetic associations to 'eat more starches', I'm sure I'd be dead. Don't get that - my blood has too much sugar in it already, so I'm supposed to eat - more sugar?

There's a great pamphlet that was written by an overweight gentleman by the name of William Banting in the 19th century who successfully lost weight that still holds true today: http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/banting.html

Coincidentally, it was a descendant of his in Canada who discovered insulin!

Just if you decide to programme weight loss - it doesn't have to involve misery or starvation.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Stanze on Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:01 pm

Definitely not! Chanah is right. I do have changed my food habits and I try to eat more and more veggies and fruits and also proteins that comes from meat. A good way as well to keep your lust for food under control is to eat regularly, let's say every four hours, but not chips and peanuts, of course.

Colours in food are also good. As much colours as much different vitamines you get.

Chanah I also have migraines and mine are also associated with lack of water. When I drink less water I'm more propense to have them!!!

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:16 pm

Thanks, Chanah! I remember reading about Banting years ago when low carb diets first become really popular. I think I remember that he also cured his gout with his diet.

Hi, my name is Kaph, and I'm a carbo-holic...

I would rather eat a larger portion of rice or potatoes, and a smaller portion of meat any day, and don't ever leave me alone with a fresh-baked loaf of good bread! So I know I need to cut back on the carbs! Shocked

I agree that suffering and starvation is NOT the way to lose weight! I would expect the alpha programming to help naturally want to select foods that are better for my body. I think it's more about the cravings for carbs that I'd need to work on because I do already enjoy fresh fruits and vegetables, and I'm one of the people who must have a salad with dinner every evening.

I'm going to try programming to reduce my cravings for carbs, and see what kind of results I get.

According to the Silva instructions, it's okay if at first you fall asleep during the programming meditation. They say that after a few times you'll adjust to the level of relaxation, and remain aware during the process.

Stanze, Yes, I have also heard that eating 6 smaller meals throughout the day, rather than 3 larger meals, is much healthier and conducive to maintaining an ideal body weight. I will keep in mind that colorful are good-- and chips and peanuts are bad! Laughing

I consider myself extremely fortunate not to suffer from migraines-- or even simple headaches. I cannot even imagine how terrible it must be to deal with that level of pain on a regular basis. I hope that the alpha conditioning will help both of you eliminate the migraines forever!

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  rif on Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:22 pm

Kapherus wrote:and I'm one of the people who must have a salad with dinner every evening.


Don't forget to be careful with the dressing! Very Happy

Yes, I have also heard that eating 6 smaller meals throughout the day, rather than 3 larger meals, is much healthier and conducive to maintaining an ideal body weight.


I found that really hard to stick to, especially working in a corporate environment.

A related tip is to stop eating around three hours before bedtime.

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Re: The Silva Method

Post  Kapherus on Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:30 pm

Hi rif,

Good advice! I don't use processed salad dressings-- just a splash of EVOO and wine vinegar.

It's also not easy sticking to the 6 smaller meals when meals are such an important event-- as they are at my house. I guess I could eat less at each mean, and then wrap up a small plate for later, but reheated food is just never as good as when it comes hot from the stove. Sad

Yeah, I'm definitely guilty of eating before bed-- that ol' bedtime snack will have to go too! lol!

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