Theta Healing

Hi all,

Has anyone had any experience of Theta healing. I'd be interested to know about them if you have. I was reading about it the other day and of course it's be touted as new, innovative and amazing. Supposedly it was discovered by a woman called Vianna Stibal. Back in 1995 she healed herself of a rare form of cancer in her leg by going into a deep meditative state...theta...and ascending to the God Source or Creator, where she commanded that she be healed. Apparently her healing was instantaneous. She then decided to use this healing to help others.

The main source of the technique is clearing negative believe patterns that can block, a persons progress.

Once the negative belief is identified, one then meditates and goes up through the 6 planes...the sixth plane is "the universal laws"... then to the 7th where the creative source resides. You then make the command to pull, cancel and resolve the belief pattern, but you must always replace it with a positive one. You can find out more about theta here .

It seems to me that this is very similiar in basis to any of a number of positive thinking systems and positive thinking has been around for 1000's of years. It's even mentioned in the Bible.
I'm not saying they don't work , just that so many of them are "discovered" in some way by someone, who then goes on to makes lots of money through teaching it. Those ones then go on to charge to teach it and it then becomes out of reach for the very people who need it the most. There are a lot of people out there who don't have the financial resources to be able to have a basic consult, let alone attend a one day workshop that's going to cost them hundreds of dollars. I realise that people need to have an income, but surely at the same time, something that is freely given by Spirit, should be freely given to others.

Kat

Hi Kat

Yes, I've heard about the Theta level. I have a friend who has a kind of machine (meditation something) that helps you to come to the different levels, through sounds and visualisation. I've been trying the Alpha Level that is the meditation state.

The experts say the Theta Level is quite hard to achieve and you need some training and persistance on that.

Yes, everything is based through affirmative affirmations and positive actions. I'm reading a book on Budhism principles for buisinness and life and there they also talk about positive imprints you place in your brains (and life) through actions, thoughts or way of conducting yourself.

Regarding charging for these teachings I agree partially with you. I know people who give their blessing for free but or they have another job and then they can help too many people because of that OR they live on charity from other people. In Brazil there was a great spiritualist called Chico Xavier and he lived on charity but he had a very hard life and in a certain way he needed some money to keep things working.

It's the same with oracle readers. If you do it on a 100% basis you have to charge something because it's a profession you develop it. And also professions and abilities to do any job are - in my opinion - also given freely by spirits.

Stanze

I'm not sure reaching theta can be taught, and if it can, I assure you that a one-day workshop won't be near enough to do it. Sitting zazen for fifteen years would be more likely and even then you're in large part training yourself - and at times it's boring and difficult and most people don't want to do it - they want a quick fix. But there isn't one; not for a spiritual discipline like that.

I was born with being able to knock myself into different brain-wave states at will, no idea why. I just was, and we discovered this when I was sent to learn biofeedback to help migraines - I could do the biofeedback and more the first time I tried it, but it never helped the headaches.

On the healing, the principle it works on - so far as I know, and what they tested me for - is a form of laying on hands, but your hands 'hot up' a whole lot first - you just think them that way, I don't know how else to explain.

I can't heal at all anymore. I could never heal myself. But there were some diseases in other people I could heal doing this, and some that just stuck, for lack of a better word. I remember one guy with hepatitis and liver cancer, and while the liver cancer did clear, I nearly knocked myself unconscious trying to get rid of the hep - it just wouldn't go. And I'd noticed that with other people who had hepatitis and a few other diseases as well - they seem to be amazingly healing-resistant - the disease that is - not the person.

Unfortunately, I'm too weak to be able to do it anymore. But I never charged - not for that. I do understand the need to make a living (believe me, I'm trying to do it now!), but turning away someone who is in desperate need of relief, or who may die because they don't have money to pay or to donate - that just strikes me as deeply wrong.

And as for the rest of it? With oracles and astrology, when I'm not reading for someone or practising, I've got my nose in a book, or am listening to a lecture, or am on a course - and I've been learning this stuff for over 40 years. I'm still a student and will be my whole life, but I've got some proficiency. Still so much to learn, though - and what I have learned didn't come overnight or from a one-day workshop, either. You can go to one-day workshops and learn some neat things, don't get me wrong! But I don't think controlling your brain wave patterns is one of them.

Kat wrote:It seems to me that this is very similiar in basis to any of a number of positive thinking systems and positive thinking has been around for 1000's of years. It's even mentioned in the Bible.
I'm not saying they don't work , just that so many of them are "discovered" in some way by someone, who then goes on to makes lots of money through teaching it. Those ones then go on to charge to teach it and it then becomes out of reach for the very people who need it the most. There are a lot of people out there who don't have the financial resources to be able to have a basic consult, let alone attend a one day workshop that's going to cost them hundreds of dollars. I realise that people need to have an income, but surely at the same time, something that is freely given by Spirit, should be freely given to others.

Without touching on whether Theta healing works (I believe it does), this argument goes around and around and around... everyone has made really great points about it already

Money makes the world go round. Some argue that people do not value what they have not had to pay for. Some tend to forget that even clergy get a paycheque. At least in many of the major players of the world religion stage, that is.

I think people who go out and get something are entitled to compensation for it should they choose to share their knowledge, but I also think that what they choose to charge for that knowledge or ask as compensation rests solely on their karmic conscience.

Personally, if you have the means, I don't think there's anything to stop someone from teaching it freely once they obtain the information for themselves. It really depends on how much you want to invest. This would probably be the road I'd take - making the monetary sacrifice myself in order to provide assistance to others. Of course, if I were to start doing such a thing as my primary source of income I might reconsider this, but the point is that my main concern is my own conscience and karma and I would personally need some kind of balance between necessity and comfort.

I also wonder if there is a difference in opinion in countries with health care systems for things like this. Here in Canada, we have a certain level of healthcare which is paid for by our taxes. I find this leads us to take certain things for granted and also makes us very reluctant to pay for things which are over and above the system which is provided for us (we tend to forget we are actually providing it for ourselves, and indeed, as above, we often also tend to forget that doctors get a paycheque.) Many other Canadians I know would never pay for a course like Theta Healing, nor seek it out to be administered to them. I possibly would, and might, should my path take me down that road, but there would be a lot of consideration and soulsearching before making the monetary commitment!

Im pretty sure everyone in this conversation lives in a country with national health, though. And I'm definitely the wrong religion, or at least was when I was working in it. Rabbis might get paid in New York City but most everywhere else - you have to have a day job. You're not allowed to take money for teaching, pastoral counselling, and other standard services.

You might be able to for administrative stuff, which is why I'm thinking - large city, large congregation if you're a pulpit rabbi - maybe.

But it's not the norm in most of the world.

Do religious in other faiths besides Christianity get paid for it? A little OT, I know, but now I'm curious!

Hi all,

I'm not suggesting that Theta Healing doesn't work. What I would like to know is if anyone has had any experience of Vianna Stibal.
According to the literature this woman is the founder of Theta Healing and she discovered it in 1995. I was intrigued when I saw the 1995 bit...we have known about theta in some way for eons... and wanted to know exactly what it was she discovered. It seems, as I said before, that it is based on positive thinking and kinesiology and meditation. Nothing new there! According to the site they teach you to access the Divine by accessing the theta state, deep emotional blocks are met and resolved, resulting in immediate, life changing transformations.
As I said before I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm sure it does. I would like to know if anyone has any experience of this woman's method.


As Cannah said: "I do understand the need to make a living (believe me, I'm trying to do it now!), but turning away someone who is in desperate need of relief, or who may die because they don't have money to pay or to donate - that just strikes me as deeply wrong."

So as to charging for it, I'm with Channah on this. This woman...and others like her... received a healing straight from Spirit. She didn't have to study for it in any way. If it was done by a donation I wouldn't have a problem with it. What I have a problem with, is the amount that's charged for something that was given freely to her. I have paid work and I charge for that because it took me years of study to get there, but my healing services are free. Yes, I paid for the courses, but to not offer healing to those that want it, but are unable to afford it is wrong.

Most pastors, ministers priests, nuns spend years studying before they start ministering to their own parish and their pay comes from donations. Yes, they may be paid by the church, but the origin of their pay comes from donations. Oracle readers also study to be able to read.

Kat